16. července 2022

「DIR EN GREY LIVE ARCHIVE & SPECIAL TALK」THE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION 2020.5.23

 


Joe introduces The freedom of Expression section of this livestream and greets Kaoru, Die and Toshiya.
Joe: Toshiya….
Toshiya: Yes (laughs)
Joe: Your face is really red!
Toshiya: Well…..but it feels good….
Joe: It feels good? How many drinks did you already have?


Toshiya: Mmm……about three….

Joe: Ohh, about three? Die, are you drinking alcohol today?

Die: I always (have) this…. *raises cup*

Joe: Is that so? Kaoru what about….

Joe is asking Kaoru when Die cuts him.

Die: Chairoi….

Joe: Charoitansan* right? As expected… what about you, Kaoru?

*Charoitansan (茶色い炭酸) it’s supposed to be a beer between blonde beer and black beer.

Kaoru:
 I didn’t drink today….

Joe: Oh, you didn’t drink…. I see…. Me…. I’m sorry, to cheer me up a little, I had just one (beer)…. for the tension….

Joe: If the people who is watching this have questions, please write them down…. I will pick up some…. So, before you two (Toshiya and Die) talked about going to a Host club together…did you ever go drinking just the three of you?

Toshiya: I think we did….

Joe: Oh! What do you have to say Kaoru? Don’t hold yourself today please, If you have any memory of the three of you going together for a drink…

Kaoru: I wonder if ever was just the three of us….

Joe: There isn’t?

Toshiya: I think than there were times that it was just the three of us at the end….

Joe: I see…So the three of you haven’t gone to a host club….

Toshiya: We haven’t (laughs)…

Joe: Now you are like this, separated from each other but, when you have the chance, do you go drinking the three of you?

*Here Joe uses a dialect word, which makes the three of them look confused.

Toshiya and Die: No

Joe: Sorry, I’m going to stop using dialect speech….

They laugh and Kaoru replies that he went drinking.

Joe: Oh, you did? I see…. Kaoru did….

Kaoru: I did

Joe: What about you, Die?

Die: I don’t.

Joe: You don’t? Do you drink alone? The Charoitansan….

Die says that he is meeting no one during this time, not even the members.

Die: The last time I met them….it was at the live without audience…

Joe: Is that so? Wow….

Die: Yes… at the end…. of March?

Joe: It was at the end of March, that’s it. Last week, we make Shinya and Kaoru had a conversation between them, so this time I’m thinking about letting you have a conversation just between you…. After such a long time, please have a conversation between members….

Kaoru: At the end, it will be just you, Die and Toshiya…. I’m done after this section ends….

Joe: Eh? Is that so? I see I see….

They laugh.

Die: Really??

Joe says that as Die has mentioned the live without audience, he wants to know what they are doing now that they don’t have any lives.

Joe: Now that lives have stopped, you have time, right?

Kaoru: I’m making songs…

Joe: Kaoru is making songs….

Kaoru: We are doing them together…

Joe is about to ask something, but Toshiya starts saying something. The two of them stop talking to allow the other to talk, but neither of them do it, which causes a few seconds of silence. Die does the hand gesture of “please go ahead”….

Joe: Did you start something that you wanted to do or so?

Kaoru: Joe, are you ok?

Joe: I’m ok…. *they all laugh due to Kaoru teasing Joe* I’m not drunk….

Joe goes back to the topic, saying that they are doing songs as usual but besides that, he wants to know if they started to do something new or so. The three of them are silent so Joe ask directly Die. He replies that it might be plain and simple, but he is doing as always, song making, arrangement and so but, when it comes to his entertainment time, he is watching overseas drama.

Joe: Overseas’ drama? If you are into some in concrete, please tell us….

Die: I finished watching two, now I’m watching “Ozark”….

Joe: “Ozark”…..what kind of drama is it?

Die: It’s a bit like “Breaking Bad”, it’s kind of related….

Joe: Oh, I see, it’s related….So now you are into that one…

Die: Now I’m like….I watch one and jump into the next one….

Joe: What about you Toshiya? What are you doing in these times? Of course you are making songs and recording, but tell us if you have started to do something in your free time….

Toshiya: Mmm, well…. I really like sauna, but right now I can’t go…

Joe: I see…

Toshiya: So, I have been searching on the internet how to do your own sauna at home, in your bath….it’s like an inverse umbrella…so I’m still deciding if I should buy it or not and put it in my bath….

Die cuts him and seems that he knows about this device and has tried it.

Toshiya: Really? How was it?

Die: It’s a sauna in the end….

Toshiya: Is that so? I wonder if I should buy it….

The two of them start talking about this, Die recommends him to buy a small one, Toshiya wonders how it works as it seems like an inverse umbrella,  he still doubts if he should buy it or not

Toshiya: I have being making songs but….this is not a new thing, but while I’m in the bathtub I watch “Hitou Roman” ….

Joe: “Hitou Roman?” What’s that….

Toshiya: I don’t know which TV station is it from…. But it’s about a  pretty young lady that goes to l onsen and eats in ryokan….

Joe starts laughing hard.

Die: That program is old!

Joe: So Die, you watch it too!

Die: I haven’t watched it….

Joe asks Kaoru about what he is watching.

Kaoru: I’m watching  Travel Channel….

Joe: Travel channel?

Kaoru: I’m watching a program from there……also about women and onsen….

Joe starts laughing hard.

Toshiya: Oh! Oh! *points at him*

Die: You really like it!

Joe: You are really exploding Dir en grey’s public image….that you watch onsen and travel programs….

Kaoru: I also watch a lot of specialized channels…about travels….they are really interesting….

Die: Domestic trips?

Kaoru: Overseas too….

Joe proposes them to do an onsen trip for the channel.

Toshiya: No way!

Kaoru: I can’t get in… (Tattoos are not allowed almost in every onsen)

Joe: That’s true….

Joe now ask them if they were going to make a trip, the three of them together, which place would they go to. He asks Toshiya first to start mumbling for some seconds.

Toshiya:  I guess it would be to the sea or the mountains….

Joe: What kind of….

*Toshiya cuts in*

Toshiya: I guess as Die doesn’t like raw food, mountains would be better….

Joe: That’s so kind…

Die: If you peel a crab again for me, I would eat it!

Toshiya laughs.

Joe: What is that kindness about?

Toshiya:  This person (Die) is  awful! When he said that he had never eaten crab…..when he said so, I asked “why?”, he said “because peeling the crab is bothersome”, as I was next to him, I peeled it for him…”eat it” , I said….

Joe: Die, you are already an adult!

Die: I don’t eat fish either….

Joe: Why? You don’t like it? Or it is bothersome?

Die: When you are going to eat it….they have fishbones right?  (so he has to pick them out)

Joe: How did you do it when you were little?

Die: I don’t remember that…

Die keeps explaining that he doesn’t it eat, because of the fishbones, pr having to use the crab tongs or the scissors. He says that you have to do a lot of stuff before putting it into your mouth, so it’s tiresome. He didn’t know how to peel a crab, but Toshiya did it fast and he only had to use the chopsticks to eat it.

Joe: In the middle of that, did you say to Toshiya “eat it” too?

Die: I didn’t say that….

They all laugh.

The crab conversation still goes on.

Toshiya: It was in Sapporo right?

Die: It was in Sapporo!

Toshiya: We went to Sapporo and there was a really delicious crab….while I was eating, I felt sorry for him (Die)….if he tries to eat it….

Joe: Very kind right?

Then Joe addresses Kaoru and Die.

Joe: On the other hand, you two are fellow guitarist but….was there anything similar between you two, something like this feeling of kindness towards each other….

Kaoru: Something kind?

Joe: Yes, please a compliment or so….

Kaoru and Die start laughing but don’t seem to have anything to say.

Kaoru: He told me “Happy birthday” ….. I didn’t do it.

Joe: So even if you didn’t do it, Die did it…

Kaoru: It was a message….

Joe: It was a message, I see…

Die: Time ago, we would give presents to every member when it was their birthday…

Joe: Oh!

Die: We kept doing it everyear, until we were like “let’s stop doing this….”

Kaoru: Because thinking about something is hard…..what do they want and so….

Die: In February, there are lot of birthday rights?

Joe: Certainly…

Die: So Toshiya and me would have to think what to get for these three people…..

Toshiya: We ran out of ideas…

Die: We ran out of ideas and everyear we would be in the same situation….having to think about this….then it was when we turned 30, right?

Toshiya: Yes, it was at that time…

Die: We finally stopped doing it….

Joe starts reading comments. People says they want to see them doing the trip. Also that they want them to be back doing lives as well but they would want to see them doing something, the three of them besides lives.

Toshiya: I don’t know about the onsen thing, but doing something….I think it would be ok…

Kaoru says “no” about doing something that I can’t get what it is.

Joe: As expected, because you are the leader right?….

Joe says what about planning something for this year. Die laughs

Die: This year? Under these circumstances….

Joe: Of course if the measures are lifted…..

Toshiya: What about a Takoyaki party?

Die laughs.

Joe: A Takoyaki party? What do you mean with that, Toshiya?

Toshiya: We….at a takoyaki party……Kaoru, is it ok if I tell this?….It was in America….

Kaoru looks like he doesn’t get what Toshiya means.

Joe: Tell us! Tell us!

Toshiya: Do you remember…..gyutan….

Die cuts in asking if it was certain party.Kaoru gets it now.

Kaoru: Ah….Don’t tell that!

They all start laughing.

Kaoru: It can be gross for the people…

Toshiya: That’s true…. I’m going to stop….

Joe: It’s better to stop for Kaoru’s sake…

Kaoru says it’s better to stop…

Kaoru: For me it’s ok, but it can be gross for the people watching…

Joe: They are saying they want to hear it….is it a vulgar/dirty thing?

Die: I want to hear it too….

Kaoru: It is vulgar/dirty…

Joe: I see….

Toshiya: I’m sorry, I’m sorry….

Kaoru: Because there are women (watching)….

Toshiya: It was a thing between men only….that kind of….

Joe: I’m sorry but at the comments they are divided in two: Some want you to tell the story, others want you to stop……”please sugar coat it and tell us”….Can you do that?

Kaoru: Sugar coating it would make it boring….

Joe laughs hard.

Toshiya: It’s really amazing…. we both burst into laughter at that moment…

Joe says he really want to listen to it but he is stressing that it could cause  trouble.

Toshiya: It’s something that the leader said…..I was next to him and I was like “what the….?”

Joe: Die, do you this story?

Toshiya: I think he doesn’t!

Joe: He doesn’t….

Toshiya: I think it was just the two of us….I will tell you next time…

Kaoru: At overseas, we were about to eat yakiniku, but when we cut the meat….the smell was a bit…it had a characteristic smell….

Die: I know that story! I’m not going to say what you said….I won’t say it, if I said it, this band might have to stop….

Joe says that the next time they invite him to a live, they tell him this story.

Joe: In other words, what you can’t say it’s to what you compare that characteristic smell….

Joe jokes with Toshiya, saying that this situation is his fault and they must change topic to avoid a “dangerous” situation.

 Die: If he said it, you would have to put a “beep” (the sound to censor the word)….

Toshiya: It’s not only me! It was the two of us….

Joe: People at the comments are obviously looking forward to the future lives but, they say they are happy that you thought about events like this for fans….of course music is the main thing for Dir en grey….but right now these things bring light into the frustration that is going on…..so that you thought about things like this, makes them happy.

They all nod.

Joe: So, our time with the three of you is coming to an end….so why we don’t try a conversation with just the three of you?… Kaoru as you are the leader….

Kaoru: Seeing the flow of the conversation previously, leaving the three of us alone is a horrible idea….

Joe says he will be listening, but he is getting out of the frame so they can talk freely.

Joe: Please talk….go ahead…

Kaoru: The three of us have already finished the recording?

Toshiya: Yes, exactly…

Kaoru: The guitars and the bass are already done….

They kept talking about the recording and Die teases Toshiya, who tells him to stop. The conversation doesn’t seem to keep going so Kaoru asks Joe to come back seeing that they are back at the previous mood.

Kaoru: Please Joe….

Joe appears again in the frame. He says this was the freedom of expression even if Toshiya said weird stuff and it’s about to end (the section)

Joe: Kaoru, we should say goodbye to you at this point…

Kaoru: Yes, thank you!

The three of them wave.

Joe: Do you have any message before leaving?

Kaoru: See you next week….

Joe: “See you next week”…..

Die laughs.

Joe: Bye Kaoru! You did well today!

Kaoru is still on the screen but Joe says that the freedom of Expression is over and the next part will be with Toshiya and Die. Joe reminds us again that if we have any comments, we can write them down.

Joe: There are a lot of comments about Die wearing sunglasses!

Die: Because now, it’s my downtime, right?

Joe: What did you say?

Die: It’s my downtime…

Toshiya burst into laughs.Kaoru disappears from the frame but he can hear him. Joe didn’t realize and adds him again to the conversation.

Joe: We are going to watch a pv….who is going to do the introduction? Toshiya?

Toshiya: Oh me?

Joe: Please Toshiya introduce the song….

Toshiya: It’s “The final” by Dir en grey….


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