-Seeing Takeru-kun, you seem to be able to precisely spot who you should have around.
You may be right. I have confident about an eye for people. My friends use me as a judge.
-A judge?
I’m told ‘Could you meet a girl who I’ve just started to go out with?’ and I go to see her, then say, ‘Oh, oh, OK’. After meeting her, I say, ‘You’d better off just giving up’, and my friend say, ‘Really!?’ or something like that. (lol)
-And vice versa?
Well, what I see is not whether my friend and his girl friend will get along well or not, but how the girl is as a human.
-The fact that your friends ask you for judgment means that you have shown them your discerning eye so often, I guess.
I don’t know. But originally, females should be better at such ‘sixth sense’. Probably, females pretend to be unaware though they are aware in fact, I wonder. Females may tend to rush straight in a subjective manner, I guess. Some have themselves misunderstood at times.
-You are likely to have a point there.
Once I meet a person and talk with him/her properly, I know pretty much what he/she is like. An interview can make it at one blow. (lol) I could make myself clear about the reasons if I break my thought into elements, but it causes headaches to explain, so I just call it ‘sense’.
-Your ‘sense’ has effect on your choice of your work?
It is difficult. Our work is composed through the combination of different people. So even if one part is good, when another part collapses, it affects the whole result.
-What will you do in such a case?
I’ll keep doing what I can do. All we actors can do is to play, to live as the character. I’ll devote myself to that point.
-You said in the last interview for the photo book ‘Deep Breath (深呼吸。)’ that you can feel acting is fun because you are concentrating, right?
I remember that. I said you feel satisfied when you are concentrating on something. That interview was done just when I found it. But I think so even now.
-I’ll ask this again, but don’t you still consider acing from ‘arts or sciences’ points of view?
No, but my way of constructing my play might be that of the science course.
-The way you approach things is so?
You’re right. My train of thought is really that of the science field. I’ve loved arithmetic and science since my elementary school days. I’ve never told it to anyone, though.
-Why didn’t you tell?
Because, somehow, when I was an elementary school student, it was regarded as cool to pretend ‘I am not studying at all. I love PE’. Actually I also loved PE, though. I loved arithmetic and science as much.
-Few love them.
At that age, no one seemed to have interest in studying. Frankly speaking, classes in the elementary school were very easy. So I understood everything, but I used to say, ‘Sir, I have no idea’ or something like that. Then teachers tried to teach me, you know. I already knew all of that, but I still pretended that I hadn’t got it. As a result, I got bad grades.
-What’s that?
Now I think it didn’t make any sense at all. (lol) But I remember one scene quite well. My teacher thought of me as a really poor student and got a stamp saying ‘Do Your Best’. I thought, ‘Aaah, he doesn’t know anything at all ~.’
-I feel sorry for your teacher.
Hahaha. It happened when I was in the fourth or fifth grade, I remember, but I regretted a bit because I got poor grades. ‘I never expected this ~. I just said I had no idea instantly ~. I did my very best at the tests ~.’ (lol)
-I’ve never heard of such a person before. (lol)
Told you.
-Did you sometimes make mistakes on purpose?
Never. I just pretended to be ignorant in the class. … I wonder if I was lonely at that time.
-A look-at-me boy? (lol)
Yeah, possibly. He was a fine young man, ikemen just like Ito Hideaki-san (lol), and had quick reflexes. He was my favorite teacher. I might have wanted him to look at me.
-Considering it, you were cute.
It is possible that I was lovable. Kawaii (cute) ~ ♥
-I didn’t know you had it in you. And after that?
I’ve never done such a thing since then. In junior high school days, it was regarded as better to be good at studies, so I tried to be so. I kept being good at studies normally.
-You’re smart by nature, I suppose.
Hmm, I don’t know. I’m not ultra-smart without doubt. I’ve met people that I couldn’t beat no matter how hard I tried and studied.
-But you passed quite a high-ranked high school, didn’t you?
Actually, I had a mental conflict about it, too. I really couldn’t choose a high school facing my future. When I was a third year student in junior high school, I was not sure what I want to do. I had some interest in acting … or show business, but I had no idea what to do with it. So I wondered what the point was in going on to a high-ranked high school after studying hard. Then seriously, I couldn’t make a choice between a high-ranked high school rather far away from my house and another one which was more than 10 points lower in deviation value. I told my parents sincerely, ‘I can’t decide. When I enter high school, I’ll never study and only dance, I think. If so, it would be better to go to high school close to my house and continue to dance if I think about my life as a whole.’ Then they said, ‘You may be right.’ But I went to the high ranked high school after all … I don’t know why. Probably it was because of expectation from my teachers in cram school. The teachers in cram school made efforts to send me to high-ranked high school. I couldn’t ruin their efforts.
-I think I got a glimpse of Takeru-kun’s personality.
Consequently, I didn’t study at all and did nothing but dance as I had expected. (lol) But I think it was good I entered the high school.
-A high school student, around seventeen years old, is most sensitive, right?
Well, in that sense, I was not aware of many things. How should I say, a late bloomer? (lol) I’ve never thought that teachers can make mistakes because they are also humans, or that adults are such and such. I was interested only in dancing. In school, I was in the habit of saying, ‘I’m bored’. Looking back, it was really a waste. There are too many blanks in my memory.
-And its rebound?
No rebound, I think. It is not rebound but what I felt when I entered this business was the joy that there were quite a few who talked the same language as me! Not so many, though. About three.
-Three. (lol)
There may be less than three. Rather few. (lol)
-They are absolutely invaluable, I guess. By the way, do you get lonely easily?
Just like other people. Sometimes I feel lonely, but sometimes I prefer to be alone. I’m not the kind of person who can’t tolerate being alone.
-When do you feel lonely?
When I open the door, coming home after my job. At that moment, I wish someone were there at times.
-Constantly?
At the current moment, I don’t have a packed work schedule, so I seldom think so. But when I’m busy with work, I want someone to be with me especially when I’m busy with work, I think. Since I started to work, I’ve never opened the door and found somebody there. I’ve never lived with anybody. So I’m seriously thinking of sharing rooms with my friend.
-For someone’s warmth?
Yup. In addition, it seems simply fun. I’ve never lived with anybody, so I’d like to try. With one of my friends, or if I had a loved one …
-Would you like to be spoiled by her? (lol)
Yup, I’d love to. (lol) I’m not a type of guy that pretends to be strong. Basically, I’m always my natural self and I think it important to let the stress out. So I sometimes depend on one who I can let my guard down to and find a way out of the stress by showing weakness in order to adjust myself properly. It is absolutely bad to tolerate anything and everything, right?
-Does it go with your aesthetic of a cool guy?
It may not to some extent, but it is definitely more important to restore a mental balance. If you get sick by pursuing your aesthetic, you’ll lose everything. It is uncool, I think.
-But you consider aesthetic of a cool guy all the same, right?
I’m always aware of it. And basically I don’t waver. Something is added to me, or I sometimes make progress or grow in some degree, but my standard … such as ‘Don’t complain’ and ‘My ideal is a man like Kenshin (in Rurouni Kenshin).
-Listening to you, I feel that you never change at the root.
Isn’t it a matter of whether you need to change or not? I’m not trying not to waver as a human but I’ve just believed what I have always had in mind. I don’t think I’m wrong, so I have no mind to change.
-When do you feel worried about your work?
Fortunately, I’ve never had the period when I have no project to do, so I’ve never felt ‘worried’. Since I always have the next work, I can clearly see what to do now. So I do my best for that. I’m living in this way.
-Are you going to be an actor forever?
I’m not sure. I’ll quit when I want to quit, but there’s no telling what will happen in the future. If I must say, I may be waver when I get bored. But in that sense, this is a kind of job that is unlikely to let me get tired because I’m doing something new each time.
-Then when you get older, say, to be an old man, what would you want to be like?
I don’t think something like that at all. But I can vaguely say that, for example, it is knowledge that I lack, now. When I get older, I will…
-What is the ‘knowledge’?
About everything. (tapping the wall) ‘Ah, this is cypress’ or something like that. (lol)
- (lol) To know a wide range of things, you mean?
Exactly. About everything. My ultimate goal is to be a person who can answer whatever questions I’m asked. I want to answer all the questions.
-From the question ‘Why am I living?’ to the kind of wood used for the wall?
Yup! All! When asked ‘Why do I have to study?’ by my child, I want to answer it easily. To be able to deal with all the question marks. It is my ultimate.
-You’re the first person I’ve ever met that makes a definite statement about such a thing so happily.
Just as I expected. (lol) I want to know everything I don’t know and find answers somehow.
-You’re quite greedy.
It is difficult, but I want to be like that. I want to be a Grandpa like that. (broad smile) I want to be Google. I want to be a walking Google.
-Eh? You’re making me confused to the contrary
Hahaha. You know what? In the United States, there is ‘pick up lines’ and I used to be hooked on them. (lol) You ask a girl, ‘Are you Google?’ Naturally, she says, ‘Huh, why?’ Your answer is ‘Because you have everything I’ve been looking for’.
-Geez!
(lol) I heard such an analogy, and I seriously want to be Google-san.
-You have kind of boyish dream in you, right?
Is this boyish? Oh, from a realistic point of view?
-It may come from the way you talk, but you said before in the interview about ‘Rurouni Kenshin’, ‘I want to be able to dash on the wall’ and ‘If I were not an actor, I’d like to be on a TV show like “Kinniku Banzuke (Muscle Ranking)” at any cost’.
Ah, if you mean that, a man is a boy forever.
-From young girls, women have motherliness … or they are somewhat mature, in contrast. Don’t you think so?
……..
-To such a question, you…
I want to be able to have an answer. (lol) As an answer to the question, I should say it’s probably for some physiological reason. Is it a bit of a stretch? (lol) I may go off the track a bit but I told you about ‘minority’ a little while ago. Such a viewpoint depends on the times and even correct answers can vary across the ages, right? I’m not interested in such a thing but want to know why so from the view point of the inner nature of human beings.
-Takeru-kun’s way of answering and the direction of the content of your answer always aim at the essence, I think.
I often hear it said that this is the commonsense of this age or that it can’t be helped in such an age. That’s not the point.
-You must feel many different things in acting roles that lived in ancient times.
In an extreme case, even your values of human life can change.
-It reminds me that when the drama ‘Ryomaden’ finished shooting, Takeru-kun, who played Okada Izo, said, ‘Even now some people tend to doubt if it is OK to say directly what is on their mind. But I think they should say what they like in this modern world because, unlike in the old days, they won’t be killed.’
Exactly. And my words came out because I lived in that age.
-At that time I thought the character was great who had brought the idea to Sato Takeru, a modern person.
I see. So in fact, there is no doubt that playing a role teaches you a lot. By living a life of another person, you feel a lot of things, but especially when you live as the person in a different age, you’ll sometimes feel uncertain what is right. It makes you think a lot. Both Izo and Kenshin assassinated people with conviction. It was justice in their mind. I understand that point from the bottom of my heart. If I go further, the law is justice. I regard the law as a thing that exists not to lead people to right behavior but for all the people to live peacefully and happily; for don’t you want to punish the criminal saying ‘What the heck!’, for example, when a random murder occurs? Thinking along this line, I reach the interest in ‘the essence’ as I told you.
-Listening to you, I’ve come to think ‘conviction’ is another key word.
Yeah, right. I respect a person very much who has conviction as the first step. For, can anyone stop him/her? No one can stop a person who is rushing straight seriously, believing, ‘I will live in this way’. It is his/her life after all and I’d like to respect his/her strong determination in the first place. I seldom find such a person, though. But if it does damage to me as a result, I will stop the person for the sake of our own lives. It doesn’t mean ‘denial’, though.
-As for this kind of story, it is difficult to express your true intentions, I feel.
It seldom happens that you can convey your true intention properly. But a few people understand me, so I talk a lot with them. Well, normally, just living your life is difficult. Even just earning your living is hard. I really understand that you have to work with a situation in order to do so. But at the same time, I also think, ‘Hang in there and live a rock’n’roll way of life’.
-Actor is a job that makes people feel such things, right?
I hope so. But it is really difficult to change other people. You can change in the true sense only when you fail. It is not until you reflect at the bottom of your heart, ‘As I recall, he said something like that’ or ‘Ah, he meant this …‘ I had that experience myself. It was not until I failed that I thought, ‘Ah ~!’
-You celebrate tenth anniversary of the debut this year, but I decided, without asking, that this milestone is not essential for you and allowed myself to interview you about what you have in mind. So far, I’ve come to understand why a lot of people say, ‘Sato Takeru is clever’, I suppose.
What? Did anyone say such a thing?
-Certainly. I heard it said by many people.
I’m very grateful that some people said so and I don’t feel bad at all, but I never think of myself as such. Well, I think I may be more reflective than others. I don’t evade thinking. A clever person can solve a problem in three minutes. I can’t solve it in three minutes but I keep trying for thirty minutes. I don’t give up until I solve it. It leads me to the answer. It is the case, I think.
-I feel impressed even with that interpretation. Don’t you give up at times?
Seldom. Once I have interest in one thing, it keeps raising questions for quite a while.
-Doesn’t that style make your words unable to keep up with your thought?
I understand what you mean very well. Actually, yesterday, I watched a talk show television where Furutachi Ichiro-san appeared as a guest. Since he is a professional live commentator, pretty words came out along with his thought without getting stuck. Such a person is clever indeed, I think. A genius.
-Live commentators have to put what’s going on into their own words, so they ‘think’ at a terrific speed.
Yes, yes. But in my case, I take relatively long time in thinking without giving up. Perhaps, there are more people who don’t think so much now. … It must be difficult to play the role of a live commentator. I won’t be able to be like Furutachi-san, but I may be able to copy Furutachi-san’s phrase.
-By copying his phrase, you may be able to find something, ‘Aha, I see!’
Exactly. The work we’re doing is that. We copy professionals and make ourselves look like them properly.
-You think of your job as such.
Yes, without doubt. We can never be equal to professionals, can we?
-Then what professional is an actor?
Professional of play. Creating a work by becoming a part of it. Otherwise, it would be better to film a documentary, right?
-Then how will you answer if you’re asked ‘What is a play?’
If you use the word ‘copy’ in that vein, there are two answers: imitation and imagination. To play by imitating what you’ve seen or experienced, and by imagining something totally unknown to you.
-As expected, you can give me a definite response, Takeru-kun.
Well, I’m trying very hard. (lol)
-You’ve done a pretty good job.
That’s why the interview is interesting. Really. As I told you before, I have no chance to talk about myself except for in the interview. I’m thinking day by day because I want to be able to answer a variety of questions I will be asked. What if I had no chance … you know (lol). So I’m having a great time now.
-It reminds me an interesting episode. During the period of ‘Kamen Rider Den-O’, adults waited in a queue to talk about their worries to Takeru-kun, I heard. You were as young as seventeen or eighteen years old, right? You were more than ‘a judge of your friends’, weren’t you?
It seldom happens. It is that kind of thing, so-called, say, ‘an urban legend’. (lol) I don’t remember. It is a good story, though.
-Your manager now was not in charge of you those days, but to hear that, he thought it was possible, he said. It indicates something.
(lol) Probably I’m always looking for the right answer.
-And I think you have personal warmth.
Nah, I don’t think I have warmth. For I think aside from consulters.
-I think you are warm-hearted just because you give a helping hand in a calm manner without being lazy.
Oh, really? If so, I think I’m warm-hearted in that sense. (lol) ‘Talking about worries’ reminds me. Just recently, I read Kawakami (Nobuo)-san’s word in ‘Rikei ni Manabu (Learn from Science and Math)’ written by Kawamura Genki-san. Kawakami-san is the president of DWANGO. He said, ‘We have relationships online, such as via LINE, in the hope of connecting with someone, but if so, the day will come when we communicate with artificial intelligence that will give us the best model answer’. I like a story like that very much, so I thought about it thoroughly, thinking that it might well be possible. And I’ve got curious to know what the artificial intelligence would answer in the future if we talked to it about our problems, say, a problem that is regarded as a taboo in today’s world. Now, what do you expect to happen?
-I didn’t see that one coming.
It’s quite off-topic, though. I now have one more thing to look forward to. (lol)
-As you talked about connection and LINE, I’d like to ask you. What do fans mean to you?
First of all, I can’t easily say that fans are such and such in the lump. Every fan is different.
-It’s nice words.
And I feel really grateful to them. It is not an exaggeration but my true senses. Recently I started official LINE and I read their comments. So I can see their response in a visible manner. I don’t have a fan club, so, to be honest, they are unknown, or I can’t get a full picture of my fans. But I’ve kept working, believing that they are happy with what I have chosen after all, including my choice of works.
-I think now is the time to ask you: Do you recognize that your image has changed now compared with the time of Kamen Rider Den-O?
Well, I’m sometimes told so, but it’s really hard to say. I haven’t changed in that I’m doing what I think is good.
-How should I say … You once gave me a very strong impression of … ‘a cute boy’.
Oh, I think I’m still cute. (lol)
- (lol)
You’re laughing but I’m working on the basis that I’m still cute now. Of course I’m getting older and I may have changed a bit in appearance, but I’ve scarcely changed as a human. Using my cuteness as a weapon …
-Hey!
(lol) In those days, my impression depended largely on the role I played. So some people were surprised. They said, ‘You’re totally different from the character you’re playing’. I remember that.
-You were pretty cute in the photos on the magazines, weren’t you?
I’d be willing to do it now if I’m offered. (lol) … Seriously speaking, not in a bad sense, I didn’t really know what I was doing at that time. I just went with the flow and it resulted in such an image. I did so out of sheer desire to achieve what I was asked for. I may not have considered what my own personality was.
-It seems that some people see you from perspective of ‘changing from Ikemen to a powerful actor’.
I see. That may be so. In that sense, I had no interest in that point because it’s non-essential. I think the essential thing is how I can do my best at the given task, mainly about the play and the character I play. For example, there are some set expressions, you know, such as ‘Because he is an idol’ or ‘Only powerful actor could have done it’ … Even if someone is an idol, a serious one has a tremendous power. There may be non-serious ones among powerful actors. I call it the essence. I don’t care so-called genre or categorized viewpoint. On the other hand, it is not that I hate it. I don’t mind being called ‘Ikemen’, or even being called ‘idol’. I’ve always been thinking like that. Rather, I feel somewhat sad that I’m called ‘idol’ a little less often these days. (lol) What is important is essence.
-I’m looking forward to seeing an actor Sato Takeru with never-changing conviction after the 10th anniversary.
Thank you very much. Anyway, I hope those who see this photo book will travel to Salar de Uyuni!
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