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Guest: Toshiya (Dir en grey)
Notes before reading: This is the translation/notes of the livestream on Joe’s Niconico channel with Toshiya as a guest last 4th February. This is part 2. Originally, I planned to do it in two parts, but as I’m barely summarizing (I’m sorry?), it’s longer than expected, so there will be a part 3 ( maybe a 4?).
The livestream was one hour and fifty min approx.
This part covers from min 47 approx., to 1h 12m.
You can watch this at Joe Yokomizo’s channel on Niconico.
Feel free to correct me if you spot any mistake or any confusing parts.
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Joe: From now on, this is the members-only contents….*everyone claps* So, let’s drink…
Toshiya: That’s it.
Joe and Toshiya open their cans of Sapporo beer. They toast together.
Toshiya: Let’s toast…
Joe: Cheers! I’m really thirsty….
Toshiya: Itadakimasu….
They take a gulp of their beer.
Joe: You said before that on stage you don’t feel nervous at all but at this kind of talks, you get nervous…
Toshiya: I’m not good at this…
Joe: You are not good at this?
Toshiya: That’s it
Joe: is it ok if you drink alcohol?
Toshiya: isn’t that a problem? *laughs*
Joe: It is… Alcohol makes people’s heart/spirit free….*Toshiya laughs* Ah, “take off the sunglasses”, is that ok for you?
Toshiya: Eh well, instead… I’m going to take my jacket off..
Joe: Oh, I see…..*Toshiya removes his jacket* Ohhhhh! Ohhhh!….there many comments calling you….like “kyaaaaa”…..have you ever made a mistake/screw up because of drinking?
Toshiya: I did *laughs*
Joe: You did…
Toshiya: Yes…
Joe: Can you say….?
Toshiya: No….the truth is…..I can’t say….
Joe: You can’t tell us….you can’t tell what you did….
Toshiya: I can’t
Joe: is that so?
Toshiya: Yes, alcohol is scary/dreadful…
Joe: It is… this year I’m like trying to not getting carried away with
alcohol….that’s my resolution for this year….
Toshiya: But well….but I never have been blackout (drunk)….
Joe: Ah, you always remember what you did….
Toshiya: I do remember…
Joe: Like if you did something awful….*Toshiya nods* “Please make him drink until he tell us”….”talk about Die”…do you have any story about this with Die?….
Toshiya: Die….mmmm…I have many memories of drinking with him….
Joe: Is that so?
Toshiya: Yes
Joe: Like drinking after a live….after recording…
Toshiya: Well, yes, after a rehearsal or so…
Joe: what kind of things do you talk about with Die when you drink?
Toshiya: Mostly about silly things….
Joe: Ah, but that’s fun, right?
Toshiya: That’s right…
Joe: Ah, “summer memories”…..”trespassing”*….stories like that… I think that there are many stories like those mentioned at the comments…
*This is a reference to the story they talked about at the livestream of May.
Toshiya: That’s it…..no good…
Joe: Everyone is like that….”A different story”…. A different awful story like that….”Bowling”…..what’s that about?……Bowling?
Toshiya: Ah, drinking at the bowling alley….You can drink at the bowling alley, right?….
Joe: Is that so?
Toshiya: Yes
Joe: While you are bowling, you drink….*Toshiya nods*….
Toshiya: That is….dangerous/risky….
Joe: At the alley?
Toshiya: I threw it (the bowling ball) at the wrong lane….
Joe burst into laugh
Joe: It came out (the story)!!!
Toshiya: I did it at the wrong lane….
Joe: That’s awful….
Toshiya: It’s awful….
Joe: You were like….*does the gesture of throwing the ball* throwing it at the wrong lane….
Toshiya: I threw it at the lane of another person….
Joe: *laughs* That’s awful….that can cause an accident….
Toshiya: That’s true….time ago…..there is a certain senpai god-like guitarist….
Joe: I’m not going to ask who is…
Toshiya: Yes….is there a type of Jack Daniels that is black?…
Joe: There is…Jack Daniels….
Toshiya: We were bowling while drinking that….*Joe laughs* at the bowling alley…so somehow I didn’t know where I was throwing the bowling ball at….
They laugh
Joe: Is that so? They are asking who is that guitarist….It’s a senpai…
Toshiya: It’s a senpai….Die’s senpai….
Joe: Die’s senpai?….
Toshiya: It’s Die’s senpai…
Joe: I wonder who is…people is writing at the comments….”Is it Sugizo?”….”C”….”S”?
Toshiya: No,no…
They both laugh
Joe: “Joe, try to get this information” ….”A hint”…..a hint…
Toshiya: A hint?….*Joe nods*…. A hint….mmmm…that’s it….La vie en rose senpai*….
*La vie en rose is D’ ERLANGER’s album. Die has mentioned several times D’ERLANGER guitarist Cipher, as his main influence and senpai.
Joe: It’s La vie en rose’s senpai….ahhhh I see…. La vie en…..*laughs*…I have a guess…..
Toshiya: Well….it’s….
Joe: Is that so?
Toshiya: He is an amazing senpai….
Joe: Yes
Toshiya: I think that Die excused himself and left….
Joe: Is that so? But…. those are really good times….right?
Toshiya: For real…I think I was able to be in band at a great timing….because I have wonderful senpai that I respect…those senpai….how could I say it?….when I got into this band….it’s like they (senpai) treat me with affection….I feel like you can talk to them like this, so after all I asked them a lot of questions. It was that kind of time. I wanted to ask a lot of things to them so my senpai would answer….yes, that’s what my senpai would do….like “ I made a mistake with this” “don’t make that kind of mistake”…things like that.
Joe:That’s important, right?
Toshiya: It’s really important. So when it comes to the younger generation…..I wonder if this kind of thing is still possible (to be happening)…what a pity, right?
Joe: It seems that bands from younger generations nowadays don’t even know the experience of drinking until early morning with their senpais.
Toshiya: Well well……I don’t know if that it’s a good change or a bad one….*laughs*
Joe: I don’t know, I don’t know, but there are things that can’t be helped right?….
Toshiya: There are.
Joe: There are good and bad things…
Toshiya: Yes yes….I think so …
Joe: That’s why it’s amazing to play rock music in a band…
Toshiya: After all, no matter how you think about it, as they are people who are experiencing something that they had never experienced before….that’s right….if I ask about something that I haven’t experienced ….like….”what did you do when you were in the same situation?”….”how about this?”….”What should I do?”…..Things like that…..it’s really interesting to hear from people who can taught you naturally….
Joe: Certainly… there are many senpais that are just a little older that were terrible….
Toshiya: That’s true, right?….It’s strange….
Joe: Isn’t it weird? It’s weird that those messed up when they were young….
Toshiya: It’s weird…
Joe: But it’s not like we are going to lose in that aspect….
Toshiya: Well…..I….in that sense….I didn’t….
Joe: Is that so?
Toshiya: I didn’t go too far….*laughs*
Joe: But that’s ok…leave it to me…
Toshiya: You may drink, but don’t let the drink take over….
Joe: But you only live once so why don’t you want to mess it up?
Toshiya: Of course, that’s right….I want to mess up….that’s why there are times that you cross the line…
Joe: Yes, that’s it…that’s Toshiya from Dir en grey…I’m Joe Yokomizo, no matter how you think about it, isn’t it like the name of an enemy/rival?
Toshiya: *Laughs* That’s….
Joe: Isn’t it? Isn’t it weird? This combination (of people)….
Joe starts point him and Toshiya, and compares their styles.
Joe: Anyway, it looks like we are free….going forward….let’s go freely…
Toshiya: Free, right? I want to…
Joe: Let’s go freely….that’s what I think…
Toshiya: That’s it…
Joe: How are the rest of the members doing recently? Like, at the recordings or if you talk by phone…
Toshiya: Well, I met them at the time of the recording…
Joe: I met Kaoru quite often cause we are doing a youtube program *Toshiya nods* But how are the other members doing? Like please, an information report about them!
Toshiya: They are alive…
Joe: *laughs* Well, that’s good….
Toshiya: Yes, they are alive…
Joe: I see….all of them are alive….how is the mysterious/enigmatic Shinya doing?
Toshiya: He is alive…
Joe: He is alive…
Toshiya: Shinya is certainly mysterious but….all members are quite mysterious right?
Joe: Who is….Who is the most mysterious?
Toshiya: I think everyone…
Joe: Everyone…
Toshiya: Everyone in the band is a mysterious person…
Joe: Ehhhhh…..for example….what’s Kyo’s most strange side?
Toshiya: Well…..what it would be?….his laughter is loud….
Joe: Ohhhh is that so?
Toshiya: I would say that, he is loud when he laughs….well, he is the kind of person that has differences between his outside and inside…
Joe: Being loud when they laugh and control a conversation, (it’s normal) as he is from Kansai*….
* Kansai is the western region of the main Japanese island of Honshu. It included famous cities like Osaka, Kobe, Kyoto and Nara.
Toshiya: It’s not because of that though…..how could I say it?….he likes comical stuff ….after all, all of them except me are from Kansai….
Joe: That’s right…
Toshiya: The standards there (kansai) are tough….
Joe: Are they?
Toshiya: They are…
Joe: The laughter standards over there are really high….
Joe: The laughter standards over there are really high….
Toshiya: That’s it…
Joe: On the other hand, is Kyo an enthusiast of films and so?
Toshiya: He is…
Joe: Like, He watches a lot….ehhhh…..so Kyo is strict about comical stuff….what about Die? What’s his mysterious/strange side?
Toshiya: What would it be? He is a blood type B person so, when he is interested/enthusiastic about something he goes for it, but when he is not interested he is like “ehhhh”*hand gesture of I pass* everyone is like that but, blood type B people*…. when they like something they go for it but if something distracts them from that, the interest goes away….
*In Japanese culture, it is believed that a person’s blood type is an essential indicator of their personality
Joe: What is your blood type?
Toshiya: B.
Joe: B….
Toshiya: Everyone is B except the band’s leader Kaoru who is blood type A….
Joe: I see…Ah, we talked about that in a live stream…my blood type is B too…that’s amazing…that there is only B type…
Toshiya: He is surrounded by B type….
Joe: He is…. is Kaoru affected by that?….
Toshiya: I don’t know but….I think he looks more like B type…
Joe: Kaoru?….Ahhh I can understand that…
Toshiya: I think that you can feel it….like me being poisoned/infected by the Kansai dialect…..
Joe: He is poisoned/infected by the B type….
Toshiya: A bit….it looks like it….but he is the type of person that wants to know everything….
Joe: Kaoru?
Toshiya: Yes, he is that kind of person…like…he wants to know anything related to Dir en grey…
Joe: I see…well, he is the leader after all…
Toshiya: Yes, I’m thankful for that… I am….
Joe: What about Shinya? The mysterious Shinya…
Toshiya: Shinya? To put it simply…”self-conceit/self centered”…
Joe: That’s Shinya in a word…
Toshiya: He has only-child vibes….
Joe: Ah, certainly…that’s it….Would you like to play a board game with him?
Toshiya: Before this, at the end of last year, for the fanclub…
Joe: Ah, you played you played, that’s true….
Toshiya: I played with Die and Shinya…it was interesting…
Joe: It was? Next time, around spring, I asked Shinya to come and play a game…
Toshiya: That’s good…
Joe: Do you want to join us at that time?
Toshiya: No,no…I won’t get involved….
Joe: If there aren’t any other members, the conversation is going to be different…
Toshiya: It’s going to be different….I think that it’s better that there aren’t any other members there, so he is going to talk more…
Joe: He is considerate with the others….I wonder if it is consideration….
Toshiya: I wonder….
Joe: “ I like Toshiya-Shinya duo”….they are writing that….
Toshiya: Ahh
Joe: Do you guys go drinking together?
Toshiya: Go drinking…..more like eating together at work and so…and….when we are on a tour…. he and I were the only ones who usually go to lunch and so…
Joe: I see…more like fortuitous (by chance) situations….
Toshiya: That’s it….
Joe: One of the things that makes Dir en grey interesting is no matter which members you combine, it feels strange….
Toshiya: That’s true….somehow…in a strange sense…..every speaks broken/imperfect Japanese….
Joe: *Laughs* It’s not only me…. I think that feeling is super cool….
Toshiya: Somehow….after more than 20 years….we’ve been together for a while but….I would say that they are still mysterious/unknown people for me….I think they are interesting people, though….
Joe: In the end, you were the last person….
Toshiya: To join them (the band)….
Joe: To join them….I want to ask you about that….Who was the first person you spoke to? who did you talk to?….
Toshiya: Originally, they were playing together in a band before….at first, I just talked with Kyo about doing a band…
Joe: I see
Toshiya: We were about to disband each other’s bands so it was like….”let’s play together”…..at that moment, they were looking for a member….and after that, the other three members followed….
Joe laughs
Joe: You talked with Kyo about doing a band together but, what kind of image did you have of him?
Toshiya: Well, I don’t know….at that time, it felt like an attraction force….like “Oh, this person is amazing”….like “it’s the first time I’ve met something like this”….
Joe: Ehh…..”Ask him about the snow”…..”in the snow”…..they are writing that….is that related Kyo?
Toshiya: Ahh….it was to do with the other members….all of them….they came to my hometown….there was a livehouse called Nagano J….well it still exists but it’s at a different place…at that time it was at the East exit of the station…..it was there where I played with them for the first time….
Joe: “Normal tires”….is that an important part of that story?
Toshiya: *Laughs* They came driving with normal tires…
Joe: That’s dangerous….
Toshiya: Yes, there were lots of snow….
Joe: That’s bad…they weren’t organized with that?
Toshiya: They weren’t and in the end, it’s really a region with heavy snowfalls….
Joe: As expected from Kansai people…
Toshiya: But they were really cute….it doesn’t snow often in Kansai right?
Joe: Barely…
Toshiya: They started touching it, squealing, and doing crunching sound walking….
Joe imitates them, squealing and bouncing.
Joe: That’s reaaaaaally…..nice right?
Toshiya: It was so like…..”it feels good”….
Joe: Kyo too?
Toshiya: Everyone…
Joe: I would love to have seen that….
Toshiya: That difference between how they look and how they are inside…..it’s amazing….
Joe: That’s really good….
Toshiya: I think it’s fascinating….
Joe: But as you said….as we saw in the previous live footage….isn’t it like they totally were different people?
Toshiya: When we all get off stage… all of us are just ordinary old men…..*laughs*
Joe: I wouldn’t say that you are ordinary old men….
Toshiya: Ordinary old men….
Joe: No,no,no…how do you change that much when you get on stage?
Toshiya: I don’t know….it’s like a switch….I think it’s interesting…
Joe: It is….that’s the power of the music…..the power of the audience….
Toshiya: Both, right?
Joe: Both things….”Isn’t there a picture of that moment”….they are asking that….
Toshiya: There is, there is….
Joe: Eeeeh? Is there?
Toshiya: There is….it’s at my parents home….but I’m not going to show it…
Joe: A picture of everyone being “kyaaa” with the snow?
Toshiya: It’s true….
Joe: Let’s make it public someday…
Toshiya: No,no ….it’s not only me in that photo….
Joe tries to convince Toshiya to show the pic someday but he insists that it’s not only him in the picture.
Joe: I’m going to ask for permission….I’m going to ask for permission and if all members are ok with it….
Toshiya: It won’t happen….
Joe: Is that so? … They are saying “please” at the comments….”At the fanclub newsletter”….
Toshiya: I see…. You all behave like spoiled kids….
Joe burst into laugh and stands
Joe: It came out (the real Toshiya)! He said “spoiled kids”…..the alcohol is already hitting….”spoiled kids!!”….”Please Joe”…..I’m going to negotiate with him….I’m going to do my best….I’m spoiled too but I’m going to do my best….if they give us permission…..maybe you can show it at the fc newsletter or some place like that….
Toshiya: That’s it….I’m going to show that picture to the rest of the members and if they are ok with it….I will reveal it…
Joe: I think that probably I won’t have the chance to meet the other members so….you should let me to keep in custody that picture….*Toshiya laughs* it’s dangerous….
Toshiya: You would be the first one to….
Joe: It could get leaked suddenly…
Toshiya: No way, no way, no way….
Joe: *Laughs* You are not drunk yet….
Toshiya:No,no…. I think it’s funnier to imagine the picture…
Joe: Everyone, imagine that picture, we are going to show today another picture anyway….
Toshiya: Imagine that Dir en grey….those five people….
Joe: That Dir en grey like “ah, this is what snow is….”
Toshiya: Not five people….Not me….imagine that four people….
Joe: Did you take the picture?
Toshiya: It was my mother who took it….
Joe: I see. Isn’t it a really another good story?….Toshiya’s mom took the picture of those five people playing cutely with the snow…I hope that one day that picture is revealed…
Toshiya: It’s scary….
Joe: It is…..I’m looking forward to that…
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Joe: Talking about pictures, everyone has pictures at the library of their phones but today we are showing a strange picture that Toshiya has in his cell phone! Let’s show it…. A strange picture from Toshiya…
The picture appears on screen. Die and Shinya are at the airport playing with a baggage scale. Die is up the scale while shinya is next to him.
Joe: What is this?…..where is it? Who is there?…..please explain it a bit….
Toshiya: It’s Shinya and Die….
Joe: Shinya is the one at the front, and Die is the person who is up (the scale)….
Toshiya: This is at Saint Petersburg’s airport in Russia. We have already checked in so we have already dropped our luggage too….so when I looked I was like “ahhh? What are these two doing?”….so, that’s where you weight your luggage….and they were weighing themselves….
Joe burst into laugh.
Toshiya: When you take your eyes off… it’s like “Are they children?”….
Joe: That’s it….it’s like they are the same than the ones who played with the snow…
Toshiya: They are cute people….
Joe: Two blood type B doing as they please…. Die did it first and then Shinya…they were like….”ohh X kilos”…..
Toshiya: Yes, Die was like “how much?” and then “Do you want to try, Yamo chan?”….
Joe: They did it together? After this, Shinya step up….if you look at this, they look as cute as in the other stories…
Toshiya: You said so, I didn’t…
Joe: I’m sorry…Can we do as if you didn’t hear what I just said? So, Kaoru and Kyo too…..they didn’t take part in this…it was just these two…
Toshiya: They didn’t….just them….
Joe: This is what happens often when you are not looking at them…
Toshiya: This happens often….
Joe: Everyone can’t imagine that just listening to what you say….
Toshiya: *Laughs* That’s it….it’s really amusing….really amusing…
Joe: It is…..it’s really a precious photo this one….
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