2. listopadu 2023

TETSUGAKU 39 : DESTINY

 


– Over the course of all these talks, tetsu-san, I’ve come to think that you have some kind of power to draw important things close to you. Such as encountering the other members; when something becomes important to you, perhaps a power like destiny is involved in drawing it nearer. As if the connection had been arranged ahead of time. Whatever it is, it’s dramatic. It might not make for much of a talk though.
[It is dramatic, isn’t it? Really. I typically think this one thing : there are so many people in the world, and I can only meet a limited number of them, but they’re predetermined. The characters of the drama that is my life are predetermined.]
– Wow, cool! That sent a little shiver down my spine! (laughs)
[Really? I feel that way very strongly. I mean, in Tokyo, there are unbelievably many people right? Still, I bump into people I know all the time. It’s highly probable, I think. But, the way I see it, they’re the characters in my drama, so of course they’re going to show up.]
– Ohhhh! Yeah, that could be it.
[So, no matter how close to them I might live, I’m never going to meet the people I won’t meet.]
– Ah, that too. There’s people you won’t see at all even though they tell you “I live right next to you,” and there are people living nowhere near you who you’ll see a lot, by coincidence.
[Right, exactly. In my case, that means I run into the other members, over and over again. It happens with all of them.]
– Ah? There must be a strong power between all of you.
[Before yukkie had joined L’Arc, I was shopping in Shibuya. My car was in an underground parking lot, so I was done shopping and on my way back to the parking lot, I pushed the elevator button, then the door opened. It opened but, you know how they have pamphlets and fliers next to the elevators? Those caught my eye, so I was checking them out, oblivious. Then, I put the flier back and pushed the button again, and when the door opened yukkie was there.]
– Woah! (laughs) That sort of thing happens. It seems you really are connected. Really strongly connected.
[That was just before yukkie joined L’Arc. This sort of thing happens with ken-chan, too. I was drinking in Shibuya with a friend, who said “Let’s go someplace else for a bit!” When we got to the second place, it was a bar-like café, I thought “Hey, that looks like someone I know,” and I spotted sakura. Thinking “Oh, it’s sakura!” I got closer and realised all of S.O.A.P. was there.]
– Coincidentally?
[Coincidentally. That was right when ken-chan was doing S.O.A.P. About a year ago, I guess. It was the first time I went to that café, too. If it was somewhere I went all the time, somewhere I knew the other members also went, that would be another story, but I really didn’t know the place, it was my first time there.]
– That’s amazing. I think it’s really incredible.
[That kind of thing happens to me a lot. Really. With hyde, too. So, this stuff is what makes me think that the main characters of my life might be predetermined. Oh, yeah, I’ve met Ishiki Sae-chan (1) about five times now. Oh, but sometimes I only caught a glimpse of her.]
– No way. So, she’s in the cast, too? Oh, that’s right, she was in a CF (2) that used NEO UNIVERSE, wasn’t she? Ishiki Sae-chan.
[Mmhmm. But, five times (laughs). “We meet a lot,” you’d think.]
– How amazing! Five times, that doesn’t normally happen by chance.
[That’s why it’s predetermined.]
– And so, tetsu-san, I think this goes to show the threads of fate tied around you are thick and numerous.
[Meeting the people I meet. Never once meeting the people I don’t meet. It’s obvious, but it sounds cool to say it! (laughs)]
– Hahahaha! Certainly, you don’t meet the people you don’t meet. But out of the billions of people on Earth, the ones you do meet, and who then become an important part of your life, there’s only a handful of them, isn’t there? Meeting those people, and even meeting them by coincidence, I think that’s incredible.
[That’s right. For example, there are some fan girls who really love L’Arc, right? “I ran into so-and-so in town!” To meet one of us, never mind meet all of us that way, that probably won’t happen, will it? But it happens to me. Isn’t that cool?]
– Cooler than the fans (laughs). It’s something to be proud of (laughs).
[Isn’t it? (laughs) Especially since it doesn’t happen when we’re on a day off together, or in stores we all go to a lot. It’s at totally unrelated times.]
– Affinity or fate, those are the words we can’t help but describe it with.
Do you believe in destiny?
[Yes, I do. Also, I have high chances of seeing celebrities.]
– Because you have an affinity for that world, right?
[Yeah, I think so. But, celebrities always disguise themselves, right? Everyone else around them won’t notice, it’s like I’m the only one who realises who it is. “How come nobody else notices?” Maybe I detect their smell…]
– “Something stinks!” (laughs).
[Hahaha!]
– I understand. Destiny varies. About yukihiro-san, didn’t you encounter him a decade earlier? Back before you had L’Arc, when you were searching for members, tetsu-san, you said you’d gone to see a Zi:KILL (3) live. Looking back on that now must seem strange. He was just another person you’d met back then and yet he was set on the path to being a current member of L’Arc. That sounds like an affinity.
[Isn’t it strange? For yukkie, too, at that live, he never would have thought that in the future, he’d join a band with a guy who came to that show, right?]
– It was coincidence, but it was inevitable.
[That’s right. I think that if I don’t have any sort of fateful connection to them, I’m not going to meet someone.]
– It must be nice to have everything be so dramatic.
[Dramatic…… Aren’t a lot of things dramatic? But. If there’s too much, it kinda starts seeming normal, to me.]
– Wahahahaha! Like, even sensational things make you go “Oh, that,” or something? (laughs)
[What, what do you mean……?]
– You must have the power to draw things to you after all. It’s an unconscious part of you, more of an instinctive ability.
[But that’s kinda creepy, really. Because, a lot of good things come with a lot of bad things. Though, if that weren’t the case, I probably wouldn’t be where I am now.]
– Of course, you also need to have the power to determine whether those encounters have any meaning or not. Even if destiny makes them happen, when you don’t notice, I think those people end up being absorbed into the mundane.
[No, I think that’s wrong. Strong-willed people end up succeeding. So the people who don’t notice, I think they’re weak in that department.]
– Ah, of course, of course.
[It doesn’t take much effort.]
– However, it does take effort not to waste money on luck. Such as on gambling and the like, right?
[Yeah, don’t do that. But, I think you can gamble even if you’re a strong person.]
– Are you aware of the strength of your own fortune?
[I am.]
– But isn’t that a talent that you’ve had since you were born?
[Isn’t it? I think it means I have a talent.]
– Interviewer : Honma Yuuko
Translated by Natalie Arnold

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